Well, have a great weekend everyone. I was glad to be able to contact some SU pals I had not been able to reach till today. Send me an E-mail to contact you if it seems I’m not reaching you via PM.
For now, this scared kitty will remain hidden behind the foliage in order to avoid the other-wordly double that seems bent on replacing me in this dimension, a-la the Twilight Zone! weeps…
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/inter.html
Great interviews by a Christian minister who is politically Conservative and pro-American in the real sense; he’s a believer in the Constitution. That is why he and others like him are against Bush.
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20070327.html
This is a Christian minister, a political Conservative, and is pro-American Constitution. Like myself, that makes him anti-Bush. How we got to this point is one sad story for America. May God help us.
man, if I were a mod in a certain forum I’d have put the kabosh on ol’ jam today!
Goodnight all, sorry for being so beastly in the cores…
http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/pagan_origins_baptism.html
From the page: “ Purification with water — a venerable Pagan sacrament Purification — from unclean foods, or acts, or contacts — 
is an idea so old it fades into
pre-history. Pagans purified themselves with fire, incense, blood sacrifice, they even purified themselves with a winnowing fan or sea onions! But the most used, most widespread tool of pagan purification was…water.
Pagan water purification rituals were used in the archaic Near East and are written about in the Old Testament. Homer mentions the washing of hands before prayer, and the purification of an entire army with water [Iliad, 1.313]
. The Greeks even has priests,kathartai, who specialized in purification with water. After the conspiracy of Cylon in Athens in 632 BC, a fellow named Epimenides of Crete purified the entire city — with water [Diogines Laertius 1.10.3].
The ancient Church Father Tertullian, noting that Pagan baptism preceded the Christian sacrament, describes purifying water’s several Pagan uses:
“[Non-Christians] ascribe to their idols the imbuing of waters with the self-same efficacy [of purification]. … For washing is the channel through which they are initiated into some sacred rites–of some notorious Isis or Mithras… Moreover, by carrying water around, and sprinkling it, they everywhere expiate country-seats, houses, temples, and whole cities: at all events, at the Apollinarian and Eleusinian games they are baptized; and they presume that the effect of their doing that is their regeneration and the remission of the penalties due to their perjuries. Among the ancients, again, whoever had defiled himself with murder, was wont to go in quest of purifying waters.” — I.e. Washing away sin! [Tertullian,
On Baptism, Ch 5.]”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/25/MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL
USMJAM*Mar 28, 6:11pmEDITED from March 28, 2007 to April 24, 2007, closer to the anniversary of Tillman’s execution and the Congressional inquiry that will whitewash it yet again
From the page: “FAMILY DEMANDS THE TRUTH
New inquiry may expose events that led to Pat Tillman’s death
Robert Collier, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, September 25, 2005″
The battle between a grieving family and the U.S. military justice system is on display in thousands of pages of documents strewn across Mary Tillman’s dining room table in suburban San Jose.
As she pores through testimony from three previous Army investigations into the killing of her son, former football star Pat Tillman, by his fellow Army Rangers last year in Afghanistan, she hopes that a new inquiry launched in August by the Pentagon’s inspector general finally will answer the family’s questions:
Were witnesses allowed to change their testimony on key details, as alleged by one investigator? Why did internal documents on the case, such as the initial casualty report, include false information? When did top Pentagon officials know that Tillman’s death was caused by friendly fire, and why did they delay for five weeks before informing his family?
“There have been so many discrepancies so far that it’s hard to know what to believe,” Mary Tillman said. “There are too many murky details.” The files the family received from the Army in March are heavily censored, with nearly every page containing blacked-out sections; most names have been deleted. (Names for this story were provided by sources close to the investigation.) At least one volume was withheld altogether from the family, and even an Army press release given to the media has deletions. On her copies, Mary Tillman has added competing marks and scrawls — countless color-coded tabs and angry notes such as “Contradiction!” “Wrong!” and “????”
A Chronicle review of more than 2,000 pages of testimony, as well as interviews with Pat Tillman’s family members and soldiers who served with him, found contradictions, inaccuracies and what appears to be the military’s attempt at self-protection.”
http://www.federalobserver.com/
Good site for Conservative Christian Constitutionalists. Note that die-hard Republicans and Neo-Cons will hate this site.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0524montini24.html
USMJAM*Mar 28, 6:00pmEDITED from March 28, 2007 to April 24, 2007, closer to the anniversary of Tillman’s execution and the Congressional inquiry that will whitewash it yet again
From the page: “When it comes to Tillman, we can’t handle the truth
May. 24, 2005 12:00 AM
As a public relations strategy, telling lies about Pat Tillman’s death was a huge success. And it still is. It worked because we ignored the fact that before Tillman was anything else he was someone’s son. Just as we ignored the fact that he did not belong to “all of us,” as was proclaimed in dozens of newspaper articles and televisions tributes. He belonged to his family. Just as we ignored the fact that he wasn’t “larger than life,” but only alive. Before (and after) Tillman became a symbol of honor, integrity, service and self-sacrifice, he was his father’s child, his mother’s boy.
If we had thought of him that way it could be that the untruths about his death would not have gotten so big or gone on for so long. If we had thought of him that way we might have been outraged from the outset to see him used in death as a political campaign ad and a recruiting poster. If we had looked at him as someone’s son – as we look at our own sons – we might have asked more questions, demanded more information and been less willing to participate in the worst type of extreme makeover, in which the memory of a young man known for speaking truth to power is transformed by the powers that be into an outrageous lie.
As awful as it must be to lose a son in combat, imagine how much worse it must be to believe that the Army and the nation he had served would distort the circumstances of his death to avert a public relations disaster. No wonder Tillman’s father, Patrick Sr., told the Washington Post, “They purposely interfered with the investigation, they covered it up. I think they thought they could control it, and they realized that their recruiting efforts were going to go to hell in a handbasket if the truth about his death got out. They blew up their poster boy.”
News reports now indicate that Tillman’s death by friendly fire in Afghanistan last year was known from the outset but purposefully withheld. There is nothing more terrible for a parent than to lose a child. I didn’t believe that it could be made any worse. But it can…………”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/army-hid-truth-of-death-says-pentagon/2007/03/27/1174761471849.html
USMJAM*Mar 28, 6:11pmEDITED from March 28, 2007 to April 24, 2007, closer to the anniversary of Tillman’s execution and the Congressional inquiry that will whitewash it yet again
From the page: “Army hid truth of death, says Pentagon
(of Pat Tillman’s death by military incompetence)
Peter Spiegel and Julian Barnes in Washington – March 28, 2007
MILITARY officers knew a day after the US soldier Pat Tillman was killed in Afghanistan that the former American football star was probably killed by “friendly fire” – but they led Tillman’s family to believe for more than a month that he was shot by Afghan insurgents. A Pentagon inspector-general’s report issued on Monday found nine officers, from battlefield commanders to a three-star general, were aware of the friendly fire incident on April 22, 2004, even when Tillman was awarded a Silver Star that posthumously commended him for valour in the face of an enemy attack.
The report found no criminal wrongdoing and did not speculate on motives for officers to mislead Tillman’s family, members of Congress and the public. But Tillman, who gave up a multimillion-dollar contract with the National Football League’s Arizona Cardina
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5514741
From the page: “Nearly 1,500 people took to the street after a multi-denominational mass at St. Cajetan’s Event Center on the Auraria Campus with several spiritual leaders and Aztec dancers in full dress.
“Cesar Chavez was the one who helped speak up for our ancestors and those who were not able to experience justice, healthcare and all the things we deserve,” said Lucia Guzman, a minister and a mayoral appointee who heads the human rights and community relations office.
The walk ended at West High School where marchers pledged to support a week-long economic boycott for immigrant rights that begins today.”
“those who were not able to experience justice, healthcare and all the things we deserve,” said Lucia Guzman, a minister and a mayoral appointee” Look up this appointee and you’ll find she is a socialist/communist who does not hide her disdain for America and its laws. Illegal aliens, demanding American taxdollars provide them healthcare as “a right”. God help us.
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